These were the cracks i noticed on my carbon jamis frame when i returned from XC8.Would you have taken this frame to do the toughest mountain bike race on the planet( La Ruta)?Or do you think this is normal?Be honest!!I decided it wasn't a good idea and passed.
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I usually go through one frame a year (and I never ride as hard a you do) and that is without cracks. That frame is their flagship, and it should be able to stand whatever you dish out (short of hitting a tree) without blinking. So I say WTF?
Thanks Dave!!!
I have to mention that that was a brand new frame because they replaced one already but would not cover this one .I only had a few rides on this frame
i'm not a bike expert, but I think that's not a good sign!
Thanks for your feed back Tori.
I wouldn't ride that crap out my back door. WTF? it's not like you are 240lbs or something. Throw it at the rep, and tell him to shove it, if you ever see him!
Good choice with the cannondale for la ruta.. I love those bikes...
They wouldn't cover this one? I know the brand, and will surely never go there.
Great feed back Greg.Thanks
Yah Cannondale is great.This is my third one with no troubles.I'll use the jamis as a training bike and ride it until it snaps.
Hey Cory! Been awhile since I have seen you and your wife at Roots. I have quite a bit of personal experience with cracked frames. I had a Klein that the rear swingarm broke like 4 times. Trek kept replacing it but the last time they said they could not match the color so I got black. At the time part of the reason I bought a Klein was the paint. Then they sent a rear triangle for a Fisher Sugar. Had to wait another 4 weeks for the right one. The front triangle was flawless still and to not get it back in the same color pissed me off. Anyway I swore off Trek and any of there brands (except bontrager) or anything with a rear suspension. I'll say this, I am shocked that they would only offer you 1 replacement, that is a joke. Especially when the "good" bikes around here usually only see 6 months of the year. As for Carbon for XC, for me the verdict is still out, yeah it's stiff, light and can be tuned to ride anyway they design it, however when I buy a new frame next year it will most likely be titanium. Unless the new Air9 Carbon proves to be near flawless. Niner has had some QC issues lately with there new frames. And the GF Superfly is a hunk of garbage. As for C'Dale, they are not immune to issues either, but mostly in lightweight aluminum as they really push the boundries of what can be done with that material. Is it a Scalpel? Those are hot and pretty bombproof, just make sure you get the Lefty serviced every spring!
Hey Steve
Yah it has been awhile since we have been to Roots(Sorry).Thanks for the feed back.Yes i did get the Scalpel and when i got done La Ruta it still looked brand new.Only issue's were that on the last stage i think mainly due to the rough conditions and the bumpy as hell railway tracks my rear cassette and my front rotor came loose and i broke a spoke on my front wheel but it never came out of true which isn't Cannondale's problem.I went with candy's for the race and was sure glad because i broke a cleat right off the bottom of my shoe on the last day as well so i had to ride the last 60k uncliped on one foot.
See yah soon at the races!!!
There isn’t a brand out there that doesn’t have problems, and the more exotic the more likely you are to have issues. Light always means less durable. However, when an issue reoccurs in the same spot it probably a design flaw. Manufactures that do not stand behind their product don’t deserve your loyalty. Titanium… not the lightest… not the strongest… not stiffest… but everything in-between. Titanium is a bike for life… and commuting ;)
Good to hear everyone is starting to talk, think and ride their bikes again.
See ya at the races.
Looking at the BB area around your Jamis again it kind of does not surprise me that it cracked. Most other carbon frames are HUGE around the BB for that exact reason. There already is a ton of stress in the area and when you add a pivot there as well then "snap"!! As for light yeah stuff breaks, my Niner is going on its 4th year, the frame weighs 3.3lbs and is Scandium. I am kind of shocked it is still around.
I think some of there earlier non carbon frames were better.I think they are trying to keep up with the big boys and make light frames which is ok but you have to have a good design.Even if the frame isn't broke in half who wants to spend that kind of coin to ride a bike that has ugly cracks.
Yeah, I remember you telling me about your frame issues last summer with the first frame, then the second one went even faster... Bad engineering/design and lack of quality control (and lack of customer service).
Carbon is a nice material, when used properly.
I recall the first generation Scalpels had many issues with the flexing stays. Have not heard about the newer models. Sure like em though.
Yah i had one of the older ones and there was some flex in the stays but it didn't seem to cause me any major issue's.They are way stiffer now.
Jamis pretty much told me that it had to break before they would think about covering it.They told me to ride La Ruta with it.I said yah ok what ever.I wonder if the Jamis rep would of flew out with a frame for me if it broke( not a chance )never seen one Jamis down there.
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